In the RSD days, Todd and Julien were my most significant influence when it came to Game. This is where I learnt most of my technical, verbal and vibe skills before I adapted them to my personality.

His coming to London this weekend was an excellent opportunity to reminisce about my younger days. Still, I also thought this could be useful for people to learn, know, or revisit.

The way it started was through asking the audience questions for him to conceptualise on the fly different concepts of Game, which would speak to the most rather than to address the specific challenges one by one of the members of the audience.

I found it pretty intelligent as when you have a wealth of knowledge, being able to compartmentalise it from A to Z is quite challenging and not à propos whilst still being relevant to the people there.

So here we go:

=> Cold approach can become addictive, but also taxing as it affects your adrenaline levels between the ups and downs. So it is about running a sustainable program as you begin. Meeting new people can be exciting, but also a source of fear, whether it is to do with the person approaching or the person receiving

It is like a drug => upper and downer => which also explains how a girl who was seemingly hot on you the night before can become cold and ghost you the day after you got her number.

=> Chaos helps bad Game and penalises good Game.

=> Tailor what you do to what you are good at

=> People overemphasise the cultural aspect vs the feminine nature. 90% of Women are the same, the remaining part is the culture.

CAVEAT:

Game can be resumed as a spectrum where you have on one end Asshole Game and on the other end Nice Guy.

I personally call it Attraction vs Comfort.

Good Game is a balanced approach. However, there is a level of adaptation depending on where the girl is coming from.

American Girls will be sensitive to an approach that is more geared towards cockiness on the side of the Asshole Game. However, the quiet Southeast Asian church mouse will seek something closer to the Nice Guy part of the spectrum.

Mr Value vs Mr Comfort (or as I like to call it, Chad vs Clean Up Man).

=> The paradox of Game is that most things that build Value are at the expense of comfort. What builds comfort is at the expense of Value, so it is about making the right arbitrage, depending on the client, if you want to cast a wide net.

3 WAYS TO CONVEY VALUE AND COMFORT:

1) Storytelling => You are captivating and comfortable in front of a crowd => Value

You spend time with the girl and show openness => comfort

2) Qualifying => It is about rewarding and appreciating good behaviour.

When you use an overt Qualifier ("You are cute, but what else have you got for yourself"), you need to have a buy-in with the girl.

This is important as guys using canned lines in the wrong context are gonna hit a brick wall. If you approach and use an overt qualifier, it is entirely out of synch with the underlying dynamic of you making the original approach.

A good way to get her to qualify her is challenging her and putting her on the defensive ("I thought you were X, my bad" "oh no, no I am not like that blablabla")

You cannot only qualify; otherwise, it will appear as placating. You need to occasionally disqualify her to demonstrate that you are genuine in the previous qualification.

You are the teacher who gives an A grade to the hard worker.

=> Building Value is having her chase your validation

3) SEX

It's easy to imagine how it builds comfort and value. Just don't suck at it.

Building your Game around sex is not a bad thing, actually, it is what you should aim for. This is why guys focusing on comfort too much don't get to the sex, or at the expense of lacklustre enthusiasm from the girl if it ever happens. On the other side, people who are too focused on the asshole side of the spectrum will not get the girl over the long term, should they wish to.

I will add my personal touch. It is better to have too much Value (asshole) as they will ex-post validate comfort if you are looking for sex alone. In contrast, having too much comfort will give you meh-looking type of girls at best, with no genuine sexual desire.

=> Some girls are more value-based, and some girls are comfort-based

French OG Translation => Hot bitches are more value-based and normies, it is give and take.

=> From culture to culture => value based triggers vary

Americans value entrepreneurship, whereas some old-school cultures will value a doctor/lawyer higher than an entrepreneur.

HOW TO DEAL WITH LOGICAL TEXTS?

Logical texts are not the best, but it is better than silence, and negative or shit-test texts. It is only second to Positive Texts. However, you don't want to keep the conversation under a logical framework (=boring).

So how do you handle them?

2 Part texts => 1 to 2 ideas per text exchange => 1 part of the text addresses the question, the other part addresses where you want the conversation to go.

If she starts an interrogation with like 5 questions, just focus on the 2 most relevant ones to answer.

IS GAME GETTING HARDER?

=> Recommendation to read Evolutionary Psychology => Todd V's recommendation was the Moral Animal

"Game is not harder, it is different"

The different sides of Game:

Day Game / Night Game / Online Game

In the late 90s, online games were non-existent; however, they became more competitive over time.

Night Game had little source of good info in the Late 90s. Then, you did not need that much skill in the early 2000s to do well. The difficulty peak was around the mid-2010s. But it got weaker post-COVID.

Day Game / Cold Approach is the cornerstone of Game; you can do different types of games, as it is the base. The late 2010s were when it was getting saturated with a lot of girls getting approached. However, it is not the case so much as it got weaker.

Like different asset classes in investing, there is a seasonality effect in returns.

Or as in Poker, where if everybody were playing the most mathematically efficient type of Game, nobody would make money off each other except the house taking their cut. This is where you had a type of play, originally popular, known as Tight Aggressive, that everybody was using. However, the Large Aggressive type of play came into the picture and became the most popular, reshuffling the deck of cards, and the cycle continues.

It is the same with Game. Online Game has become much harder due to competitiveness from all around (Personal take).

One of the paradoxes that was raised was that the vast majority of the crowd, including Todd V and me, preferred a quiet lounge/bar over a nightclub to score.

However, almost everybody agrees that at the end of the night, more people would get laid in a nightclub.

My take:

The reality is that Bottle Service and Sections have made that side of Game much more infrastructure-driven (Social Game with Promoters, Club Owners, Girls), making this realm the exclusive domain of the happy few, where a pre-selection was made top-down.

3 RECOMMENDATIONS

1) Social Media

What was interesting was that even old school PUAs such as Todd V even recommended that you have a passable Social Media Profile. To not appear as a creep, and even better if you can have it do all the work done for you.

Realistically, Social Media is effort. But you don't have to be that high Value to make the most of it. Remember when you were at school and you had to do a Group Presentation. It was not the one who did all the grunt work who would get the most attention from the teacher/jury; it was the guy who presented. It is the same with Social Media.

The number is still better than IG. But IG is much easier to get, and they give it out like candy.

2) Focus on hobbies you like, where you can meet the opposite sex

3) Say yes more often to friends' suggestions of going out.

=> There was an argument that some cities are harder to game: DC / Seattle / San Francisco

It does not mean it cannot be done so. It is just a matter of where your skill set, adaptability, and advancement grow at a higher pace than the rate of difficulty of these areas.

=> Move from OLD Apps to Phone as soon as you can. It was actually said that most guys don't make the request (surprisingly enough).

Important because a lot of girls have their notifications off the App, where iMessage and WhatsApp are on. So don't let yourself be flaked on by communication logistics.

=> To decrease the Flakiness %, get the phone call, even better with FaceTime.

ON AFFIRMATIONS TO BUILD SELF-ESTEEM

There are good and bad affirmations that you say in front of your mirror:

1) I am that hot shit => not gonna work as it is not based in reality, or you don't believe it.

2) I am high Value because XYZ => same as with 1)

You want it to have an anchoring to reality.

HOW ABOUT SOBER DATING?

Drinking is beneficial for Game.

Don't drink for liquid courage or use it as a crutch if you are not a drinker, or if you have an addictive personality.

Game without drink is challenging but not impossible.

Technically, you are swimming against the current.

SEEDING THE PULL

Big Paradox of Game => How do you show interest without appearing needy?

=> Push/Pull

=> Interest in a Negative Framing:

"You are not going home with me"

"We are not getting married"

Eliminate "my place" from your vocabulary

=> Future Projecting => Communicating that the interaction does not stop after the original meeting at the club/lounge.

There were also exercises on Misinterpretation to turn something platonic into something sexual and funny